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Nothing is more certain to raise blood pressure in New York City than a discussion of the city’s handling of illegal immigration. This is evident in the response to Intro 656, a bill that would prevent the city Department of Correction from handing over suspected illegal immigrants to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement for detention and deportation.

“This bill will absolutely make our communities less safe — it not only puts illegal immigrants who have been charged with another crime back on our streets, but makes no distinction between arrests for violent crimes and other crimes,” said City Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Astoria).

Supporters of the bill counter that the Rikers program, which cost $30 million a year, was “tearing families apart.”

Under the federal Criminal Alien Program, correction officials grant ICE agents permission to interview foreign-born inmates in person or via video-conferencing, or to access the jail’s databases containing information on the inmates held there.

Keep in mind that most city agencies are not permitted to exchange information with ICE.

The NYPD, DOC and city Department of Probation have been working with ICE for years and with good reason. Under a program named Operation Predator, Probation and the state Division of Parole worked with ICE to arrest convicted sex offenders currently on probation or parole. Most of those targeted had committed horrendous crimes involving children.

It was argued that regardless of their criminal sentence or immigration status, these sex offenders should not be allowed to continue living in America.

But Intro 656 addresses a more complex problem and both sides should resist the urge to oversimplify the issue. Between 2004 and 2009, the American Civil Liberties Union says more than 13,000 inmates at Rikers Island have been placed into deportation proceedings as a result of CAP.

We trust the NYPD and other criminal justice agencies will continue working with ICE to target the most dangerous illegal immigrants. At the same time, we doubt Intro 656 will have an impact on public safety.

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Joel Wischkaemper from Spokane, WA says:
Keep in mind the illegal aliens can buy another forged document for less than a weeks pay. You could have Jack the Ripper in the house next door, and you won't know it until the illegal aliens are arrested, and their real identity determined. All kinds of people make a Run for the U.S. Border from good people, to bad people. At this point, a lot more people are running for the U.S. when the Mexican Police come after them and with the actual number of illegal aliens in New York, a lot of them did just that.
Nov. 20, 2011, 11:10 am
David Stutz from Texas says:
Our country is almost beyond help and allowing illegals to live among us and all this stupidity on not deporting them is destroying us.
Nov. 20, 2011, 11:50 am
Pedro from Washington Heights, N.Y. says:
Do you remember the White lady that was groped by a pervert on the train in N.Y.C., and she took out her phone and recorded him?... well, the pervert turned out to be an illegal alien from Mexico. He received a four months sentence and was released back on the streets and now we have an epidemic of Mexicans illegal aliens groping women and sexually assaulting them. This is the policy of our wonderful mayor... you have to understand, he nor his family is affected by this policies, because he lives so above the average person's life and as long as the businesses in the city can continue to use the cheap labor from illegal aliens, who cares about the safety of the citizens.
Nov. 20, 2011, 1:36 pm
D. Porter from Invader-Infested Calif. says:
It's insanity that a city or state would actually want to keep criminal invaders among their populations thereby endangering citizens and legal residents. Any politician (socialist vermin Bloomberg and Comrade ObaMao come to mind) who would be nuts enough to want this has no business being in office. It's bad enough that the current corrupt, criminal-infested DC regime actually sues states wthat are enforcing the law because the feds won't, but this crap proves that the ruling elite actually despise citizens so much that they won't ever remove criminals. It's disgusting.
Nov. 20, 2011, 1:43 pm
JOHN from NYC says:
When a group of people draft policies that creates harm to the masses, they are charged with "Crimes against Humanity" and we, the citizens of NYC are being forced to do the same. When this policy of releasing criminals back on the streets, instead of deporting them, and they commit crimes again, we must bring charges to the politicians that created such policies against the safety of all of us. This politicians are not above the law and they must be held accountable for their horrible actions.

This horrible human beings (politicians) are not different than the dictators whom drunk from power, assume that their ill actions would bring to consequences to them.
Nov. 20, 2011, 2:07 pm
steve from Linden MI says:


I come for visit, get treated regal,
So I stay, who care I illegal?
I cross border, poor and broke,
Take bus, see employment folk.
Nice man treat me good in there,
Say I need to see welfare.
Welfare say, "You come no more,
We send cash right to your door."
Welfare checks, they make you
wealthy,

Medicaid it keep you healthy!
By and by, I got plenty money,
Thanks to you, American dummy.
Write to friends in motherland,
Tell them come as fast as you can.
They come in rags and Chebby
trucks,

I buy big house with welfare bucks.
They come here, we live together,
More welfare checks, it gets better!
Fourteen families they moving in,
But neighbor's patience wearing thin.
Finally, white guy moves away,
Now I buy his house, and then I say,
"Find more aliens for house to rent."

And in the yard I put a tent.
Send for family (they just trash),
But they, too, draw the welfare cash!
Everything is mucho good,
And soon we own the neighborhood.
We have hobby--it's called breeding,
Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?
We get free! We got no bills!

American crazy! He pay all year,
To keep welfare running here.
We think America darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man
race.

If they no like us, they can go,
Got lots of room in Mexico
Nov. 20, 2011, 2:47 pm
Mary from D.C. says:
Until we begin holding these politicians criminally responsible for their actions against the safety of our citizens, they will continue supporting and protecting illegal foreign nationals for the sake of profits. The gov. of MA, refuses to deport the illegal aliens in MA, and instead chooses to put them back on the streets, and one of those illegal aliens afterward killed a 23-year-old Milford man. The mayor of NYC refuses to deport criminal illegal aliens, even if they assault and rape our women.

These people are not above the law and they MUST BE held directly responsible for the crimes commited by the illegal aliens that they chose to protect and put back onto the streets. WE MUST HOLD THESE POLITICIANS CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST ALL OF US.
Nov. 20, 2011, 4:37 pm
Dave Francis from Queens says:
YOU CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE BY DEMANDING WASHINGTON ENACT E-VERIFY

Enforcement through Attrition is the action to fully ignite Mandatory E-Verify. Call Washington at 202-224-3121 and strongly insist that Lamar Smith’s ‘The Legal Workforce Act’ be passed now. It will save American jobs from unscrupulous business owners who are colluding with lawmakers to kill this bill. A shameful fact around the country is black citizens, Hispanic citizens, Asian citizens, white citizens and other races of low income Americans have been displaced by foreign nationals who have illegally entered this country. All illegal aliens must go and our laws enforced. Illegal Aliens by definition is a criminal fugitive from ICE and then to use a falsified document to get a job, makes it a—FELONY. Don’t hesitate; don’t wait as more timid lawmakers are are beginning to co-sponsoring bill (H.R.2885.)

E-Verify is a free government data-base that identifies illegal labor and costing nothing to run. Alabama workers are especially finding job openings currently, where there was none before. This program works and illegal aliens being rejected by business owners are self-departing at no cost to taxpayers. It’s no surprise that American people are lining up for any job that becomes available. The Washington switchboard at 202-224-3121 is already snowed under with exasperated callers, who are justifiably contacting their representatives. Now it’s your turn? Study more about costs and the 20 million illegal migrants and immigrants already here. Stop this mockery of the ‘Rule of Law.” NumbersUSA has all the facts and not falsehood from the Democrats. Join the TEA PARTY and throw out all the politicians, who are spending America into a third world country.

During the upcoming races at the State and in gubernatorial elections, we must be explicitly watchful for non citizens voting in these races and in 2012.
Nov. 20, 2011, 5:24 pm

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