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Feds purge geese near JFK

U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand pushed for legislation to remove geese from the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge.
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Federal agents rounded up more than 750 Canada geese at the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge Monday in an effort to stave off fatal bird strikes on passenger airplanes taking off or landing at John F. Kennedy International Airport.

U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) pushed the federal Department of Agriculture to expedite an environmental impact study and make the final decision on what to do with birds some see as a threat to air safety.

“We could not afford to sit back and wait for a catastrophe to occur before cutting through bureaucratic red tape between federal agencies,” Gillibrand said. “We are finally taking action to help reduce bird strikes and save lives. I thank Secretary Ken Salazar for his leadership in moving this process forward.”

In a phone conversation with Salazar, the senator urged the U.S. Interior Department secretary to quickly issue new permits for the removal of geese from the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge immediately upon the formal acceptance of the study.

The USDA removed the birds during their molting period when they are flightless and easier to round up. The birds were rounded up, put into crates and driven to a meat processing plant in upstate New York, confirmed Carol Bannerman, with the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, a division within the USDA.

The geese will be killed and their meat will be given to food banks upstate, Bannerman said.

Last month, Gillibrand also requested the expedited removal of 200 geese at two landfill areas along the Jamaica Bay shoreline, which the Interior Department had the existing authority carry out and was able to complete two weeks ago. The senator introduced federal legislation in May to reduce bird strikes.

In April, a Delta Airlines jet was forced to make an emergency landing after it hit geese when it took off from Kennedy. In a separate incident, a JetBlue flight taking off from Westchester County hit two Canada geese and was forced to land.

Geese also brought down the Miracle on the Hudson flight in 2009, when Capt. Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger was forced to land his plane in the Hudson River after it took off from LaGuardia

But while Gillibrand sees this action as desperately needed to ensure safety in the skies, animal activists view the roundups as a cruel slaughter of innocent geese.

“Sen. Gillibrand turned Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge into a killing zone this morning, as 751 Canada geese were rounded up, removed and slaughtered while they were molting and unable to fly — thanks to Gillibrand’s wrong-headed, shocking attack on geese in the city’s only federally protected bird sanctuary,” said Edita Birnkrant, the New York director of Friends of Animals. “Shame on Sen. Gillibrand, whose reputation is forever tarred by this bloody, disgraceful attack on New York City wildlife and a refuge.”

And Ida Sanoff, of the Natural Protective Association, believes removing geese could actually exacerbate the threat to aircraft.

“Environmentalists know the golden rule of ecosystems: If one species is removed, another species will take over,” said Sanoff. “So if the gulls and the geese are gone, there will be more resources available for whatever species moves in to occupy their niche. And that species may be even more problematic.”

Reach reporter Steve Mosco by e-mail at smosco@cnglocal.com or by phone at 718-260-4546.

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PattyA from Manhattan says:
The writer mostly ran with the political spin and press releases of USDA and Senator Gillibrand.

That is unfortunate.

It is doubtful Gillibrand even read the EIS that she has used as "cover" to launch her hysterical tirade against the geese.

The EIS identified laughing gulls as the primary bird "threat" to airliners.

But, geese are easy to round up when flightless and they are plentiful.

Thus the real reason for a political opportunist like Gillibrand to try and make hay on the backs of slaughtered geese who have no vote this coming Election Day, while portraying herself as the "champion" of airline safety.

Its a pity the media does not see through this political ruse for what it really is and ask real questions.

But, the public is not so dumb and willing to buy political "spin" as truth.

Gillibrand miscalculated when assuming most New Yorkers don't give a damn about geese, nature or protection of our disappearing wildlife.

She will be remembered this election day and not in the ways she either wants or anticipates.
July 12, 2012, 5:32 am
Marion from Manhattan says:
Gillibrand is an airhead to end all airheads and the question is who is pulling her strings and what is really behind this?

If some of you so called journalists actually did any research instead of just printing news releases you might be able to print something worth reading.

Until then nobody's paying attention to your propaganda. You are wasting your time.

EFFORTS TO INVESTIGATE WILDLIFE SERVICES METHODS CONTINUE:
Two recent documents are drawing renewed attention to the federal government's wildlife damage control program.

One is a bipartisan letter from four members of the U.S. House of Representatives requesting a congressional investigation of Wildlife Services, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agency that specializes in killing birds and mammals considered a threat to livestock, the public and the environment.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/25/4586191/efforts-to-investigate-wildlife.html#storylink=cpy

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/25/4586191/efforts-to-investigate-wildlife.html
July 12, 2012, 2:39 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
No legitimate journalist can do an article on Canada geese unless they also point out that FEDERAL AND STATE WILDLIFE AGENCIES ARE TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POPULATION OF CANADA GEESE IN THE ATLANTIC FLYWAY...AND THEY CALL THIS LARGE POPULATION 'A GREAT WILDLIFE SUCCESS STORY'. They spent years and a lot of money in the effort to increase the Canada goose population in the Atlantic Flyway. Maybe some of you want to think about suing them - they got the goose hunting revenue and you got...to pay another government agency to demonize and kill these innocent birds that have been nothing but a victim of gross manipulation and mismanagement by YOUR GOVERNMENT.

"From the 1950s through the 1980s, WILDLIFE AGENCIES IN MANY AF STATES WERE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN RELOCATION AND STOCKING PROGRAMS TO RESTABLISH RESIDENT POPULATIONS. These programs were highly successful and most were discontinued by 1990." http://www.mdwfa.org/flyway/CAGO_RPManagementPlan.pdf.

These expensive efforts by your government included: (1) giant Canada geese were used as breeding stock, (2) young geese were released from captive flocks until self-sustaining, free-flying populations developed, (3) release sites were surrounded by sufficient habitat to enable flocks to grow and expand, and (4) surrounding lands were often closed to Canada goose hunting to reduce mortality on locally produced birds.

THANK YOUR GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR RESIDENT GEESE! IT WAS A GREAT WILDLIFE SUCCESS STORY WASN'T IT?

NOTE TO JOURNALISTS - please remember to mention this very relevant fact in future articles about the problems with 'canada geese'. Please also pass this information on to the Senator who appears to think the geese just sat down and multiplied themselves. They didn't. Her government is totally responsible for this 'great wildlife success story'.
July 12, 2012, 2:54 pm
Janice Capuani from Orchard Park says:
This is appalling. If they were in fact a threat to airline safety, couldn't they have been transferred to another refuge.

I routinely email Sen. Gillibrand regarding environmental and animal issues - sometimes several times a week. She has responded ONE time to me over the years she has been in office. (Sen. Schumer responds almost every time, either by email and/or letter).
July 12, 2012, 2:55 pm
Goose Whisperer from Jamaica Bay says:
This is a great! We are getting rid of nuisance birds that poop everywhere AND feeding the homeless. If they don't like it, they can fly back to Canada. Win/win situation here. USA! USA!
July 12, 2012, 4:37 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
Well goose whisperer 'fly back to Canada'....you can't even be bothered to read and understand these birds never came from Canada but were propagated by your state and federal wildlife agencies.

Scru such stupid comments as yours when you can't even be bothered to learn anything about what you are talking about. Ignorance is such bliss isn't it but it's still IGNORANCE.
July 12, 2012, 4:43 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
Janice....geese are not the terrorists in the skies. Pilots and planes are.

THESE ARE REAL PLANE CRASHES AND THE REASONS PLANE CRASH...HINT it isn't by Canada goose!!

1) CBS recently interviewed David Soucie, aviation expert, former crash investigator with the FAA, and author of ‘Why Planes Crash’. He says planes crash because of PILOTS. Not Canada geese, but PILOTS.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7412058n&tag=mnRunDownTab%3BmnRunDownList

2) Ten top reasons for fatal plane crashes – wildlife and Canada geese specifically don’t even have their own category. Pilot error always has and continues to top the list. .
http://planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

3) Since 1960 over 700 people have been killed in fatal plane crashes related to JFK Airport alone.....NOT ONE of those crashes was related to a Canada goose:

December 16, 1960 – a United Airlines Douglas DC-8 bound for Idlewild collided with a TWA Super Constellation bound for La Guardia; the United jet crashed in Park Slope, Brooklyn, the TWA plane on Staten Island, killing 127 people on board and five on the ground.

March 1, 1962 – American Airlines Flight 1,[92] a Boeing 707 crashed on takeoff from Idlewild after its rudder separated from the tail. All 95 passengers and 12 crew members were killed.

September 8, 1970 – a Trans International Airlines DC-8-63CF ferry flight to Dulles International Airport crashed on takeoff from runway 13R, killing all 11 crewmembers on board.

December 1, 1974 – Northwest Orient Flight 6231 a Boeing 727 chartered to pick up the Baltimore Colts in Buffalo crashed near Thiells, New York. The flight departed John F. Kennedy International Airport with only the cockpit crew on board. The pitot heat was not turned on and the tube iced over during climb out making the airspeed readings unreliable. The plane stalled passing 23,000' and the crew was unable to regain control. All 3 crewmembers on board were killed.

June 24, 1975 – Eastern Air Lines Flight 66, a Boeing 727 on final approach from New Orleans, crashed into the runway lights short of runway 22L, killing 112 passengers and crew. The cause of the crash was wind shear during a heavy thunderstorm.

January 25, 1990 – Avianca Flight 52, a Boeing 707-321B arriving from Bogotá and Medellin, crashed at Cove Neck, Long Island, after a missed approach to runway 22L at JFK and subsequently running out of fuel. 73 passengers and crew perished. 85 survived

November 12, 2001 – American Airlines Flight 587, an Airbus A300 crashed while en route to Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic. During climb, the aircraft lost most of its vertical fin due to overcontrol of the rudder while encountering wake turbulence, and CRASHED INTO THE Belle Harbor NEIGHBORHOOD OF QUEENS. THE CRASH KILLED ALL 260 PEOPLE ON THE PLANE AND FIVE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_International_Airport

4) In ten years over 600 people were killed in Airbus A320 crashes (which Flight 1549 was)...and not one of those was related to wildlife or a goose. Fatal and significant airbus A320 incidents:
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/a320.htm

5) In just two months of 2012 more people have died in plane crashes totally unrelated to wildlife than have died in aviation history due to strikes with all wildlife. Over 400 people have been killed in plane crashes in two months.

3 June 2012; Dana Air; MD83; 5N-RAM; flight 992; Lagos, Nigeria: The aircraft was on a scheduled domestic flight Abuja to Lagos, Nigeria, and crashed in a residential area near the airport. The aircraft was completely destroyed in the crash, and all eight crew members and 139 passengers were killed. The plane reportedly struck a power line and then crashed into at least one apartment building…..10 people on the ground also killed – 157 killed in total.

June 2012; Allied Air; 727-200; 5N-BJN; flight 111; Accra, Ghana: The aircraft was on a cargo flight from Lagos, Nigeria, to Accra, Ghana, and overran the runway after landing. The aircraft struck a minivan on a nearby road, killing all 10 of the occupants. None of the four crew members weree killed…….Because no airline passengers were killed, this is not counted as a fatal event by airsafe.com. – 10 people killed.

14 May 2012; Agni Air; Dornier 228-200; 9N-AIG; near Marpha, Nepal: The aircraft was on a scheduled domestic flight from Pokhara to Jomson, Nepal, and crashed into the side of a mountain near Marpha, Nepal. Shortly before the crash, the crew had turned back toward Pokhara because of weather conditions at Jomson. Two of the three crew members and 13 of the 18 passengers were killed. – 15 people killed.

9 May 2012; Sukhoi Superjet 100; near Jakarta, Indonesia: The aircraft was on an unscheduled demonstration flight that had departed from Jakarta, Indonesia. After departure, the crew circled nearby Mt. Salak, and began a descent from 10,000 feet to 6,000. The aircraft crashed into the side of the mountain at about 5,100 feet. There were no survivors. Among the 37 passengers were members of the media and representatives from a number of Indonesian airlines. – 40 people killed.

20 April 2012; Bhoja Airlines; 737-200; AP-BKC; flight B4 213; Islamabad, Pakistan: The aircraft was on a scheduled domestic flight Karachi to Islamabad, Pakistan, and crashed in a residential area near the airport. The aircraft was completely destroyed in the crash, and all six crew members and 121 passengers were killed. Among those killed were several children and one newlywed couple. This was the airline's inaugural flight on this route. – 127 people killed.

2 April 2012; UTair ATR 72-200; VP-BYZ;flight 120; Tyumen, Russia: The aircraft was on scheduled domestic flight from Tyumen to Surgut, Russia. The airplane crashed broke up, and caught fire in a field about 1.5 miles (2.5 km) form the end of the departure runway. All four crew members and 27 of the 39 passengers were killed. This is the second fatal passenger jet crash involving this airline.- 31 people killed.

May, 2012 Two private planes carrying five people collided northeast of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan on Saturday, killing everyone on board, RCMP have confirmed. – 5 people killed.

May, 2012 The B.C. Coroners Service has officially identified all three people killed in a plane crash near Kelowna, B.C., on Sunday. – 3 people killed.

May 3, 2012 - The Federal Aviation Administration says a local official has confirmed two people are dead after a small plane crashed in suburban Chicago. FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory says the single-engine aircraft crashed late Thursday afternoon near Crystal Lake. She says a coroner in the region has confirmed two fatalities. – 2 people killed.

June 4 - A firefighting aircraft crashed into rugged terrain near the Utah-Nevada border as it dropped retardant on a 5,000-acre wildfire, killing the two people aboard. – 2 people killed.

May 31, 2012 - Authorities on Wednesday were working to recover the bodies of four people who died when their single-engine plane crashed near Zion National Park, the second deadly small-plane crash in southern Utah in less than a week. – 4 people killed.

……On Saturday, four men in their 20s were killed when their plane went down at the nearby St George Municipal Airport. – 4 people killed.

PLANES ARE NOT CRASHING BECAUSE OF CANADA GEESE. PEOPLE ARE NOT DYING IN PLANE CRASHES BECAUSE OF CANADA GEESE. To listen to the propaganda machine you would think people were dying regularly by these flying terrorists. You have lost all perspective if you drink this Kool-Aid!!!
July 12, 2012, 4:44 pm
Goose Whisperer from Jamaica Bay says:
Sorry Marion, let's meet up and talk about our differences over dinner. I have a fabulous crispy roasted goose cooking in the oven. What do you say? HONK HONK!
July 12, 2012, 5:11 pm
Jules from Valley Stream says:
Unfortunately, good journalists have a responsibility to represent both sides of every story. Your obvious lack of a life and inability to take action have caused you to troll meaninglessly on a local newspaper's website.

If you really cared about the geese, you would get off your tushes, stop criticizing each other (and Mr. Mosco), and maybe learn how to proofread your comments before you submit them to the public.

Also, regurgitating information from cbsnews.com and wikipedia is incredibly tasteless; especially if you've just accused someone of misrepresenting important information.

Finally, have you been following this story thread? In previous articles regarding the goose slaughter, Mr. Mosco has raised all of the concerns that you're railing on about. Please inform yourselves before you unjustly target someone who is actually on your side.
July 12, 2012, 6:26 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
Jules...i was presenting facts with sources. That shows geese are not the hazards to the flying public or planes. Pilots and planes themselves are what are causing planes to crash.
July 12, 2012, 8:46 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
BTW "USDA Summary: New York City Canada GooseRemovals in 2011" states:

"An analysis of data from the FAA Wildlife StrikeDatabase, estimated that 81% of 1,238 reported Canada goose strikes nationwide from 1990 – 2009 were from resident non-migrating geese"

....if you can get through the 'gafflegab' - this tells you there were 1,238 goose strikes in the USA from 1990 to 2009.

That works out to 1.3 goose strikes per state per year - and 81% of those were resident geese.

So from 1990 to 2009 there was part of a resident goose strike per state per year.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81877732/New-York-City-Canada-Goose-Management-Report-2011

Yes.....I can really see how killing thousands of innocent Canada geese in NYC is going to cut the number of bird strikes

1.3 goose strikes per state per year and only 81% of that were resident geese. According to the USDA's own document.
July 12, 2012, 8:50 pm
Marion from Manhattan says:
BTW "USDA Summary: New York City Canada GooseRemovals in 2011" states:

"An analysis of data from the FAA Wildlife StrikeDatabase, estimated that 81% of 1,238 reported Canada goose strikes nationwide from 1990 – 2009 were from resident non-migrating geese"

....if you can get through the 'gafflegab' - this tells you there were 1,238 goose strikes in the USA from 1990 to 2009.

That works out to 1.3 goose strikes per state per year - and 81% of those were resident geese.

So from 1990 to 2009 there was part of a resident goose strike per state per year.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81877732/New-York-City-Canada-Goose-Management-Report-2011

Yes.....I can really see how killing thousands of innocent Canada geese in NYC is going to cut the number of bird strikes

1.3 goose strikes per state per year and only 81% of that were resident geese. According to the USDA's own document.
July 12, 2012, 8:50 pm
Goose Whisperer from Jamaica Bay says:
1.3 goose strikes per state per year is 1.3 too many. Good riddance, now get a life.
July 13, 2012, 10:33 am
Laura from near a refuge says:
Ironic / Indian Givers. Give the birds a "refuge" (defined as shelter, sanctuary, haven), and then... murder them for being there. Worse, try to mitigate this murder by using the guise of "for meat given to the needy."

Move the refuge. I will help. My email is: lm2987@email.vccs.edu
July 18, 2012, 5:24 am
Laura from near a refuge says:
Ironic / Indian Givers. Give the birds a "refuge" (defined as shelter, sanctuary, haven), and then... murder them for being there. Worse, try to mitigate this murder by using the guise of "for meat given to the needy."

Move the refuge. I will help. My email is: lm2987@email.vccs.edu
July 18, 2012, 5:24 am

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